Young Drivers and insurance

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2468motorway

Posts: 11
Posted At: 16/09/2008 20:35:08

How are young drivers meant to get insurance...current quotes are crazy. Can't someone offer a no claims bonus to young drivers when they take out insurance. If they have a crash they then pay the full premium. Even the pay as you go insurance has gone bust.
DiamondAsh

Posts: 4
Posted At: 24/09/2008 09:25:36

How would they qualify for 'No-claims-bonus' is they had not had insurance before. Any drivers of any age have to have insurance for a certain time period before qualifying for No-claims-bonus.

I believe it would help if younger/novice drivers were restricted to lower engine sizes and things like that (passenger carrying etc) for the first few years. That would help with the cost of Insurance. So at the moment all they can do is what is within their range. What remains is the price they have to pay for the priviledge. You cannot put a price on experience and that is the one thing that young drivers do not have and it can only be gained by time and action.

Plus point: You are not young for long.

*onwards and upwards*
ROAD TO HELL

Posts: 9
Posted At: 26/09/2008 16:11:28

The problem is many are priced out of the market and therefore become uninsured drivers. The idea I put forward was to give them a "no claims bonus" upfront (yes a novel idea as they would not qualify for it) and if they abuse it they have to pay a higher premium. Not all young drivers are dnagerous drivers.

It would not help at all if they were restricted to lower engine sizes, indeed it would make matters worse. Good experience can be gained by driving parents' cars which tend to be larger. It is just as easy to kill yourself in a Mini Metro as a Masserati. Both can break the speed limit but at least the Maserati tends to be a structurally safer car than the Metro which scored the lowest EuroNCAP score ever.

You say "you cannot put a price on experience" well you can and most insurance companies do...hence inexperienced drivers cannot afford insurance.

*backwards and downwards"
Dr-Cmos

Posts: 3
Posted At: 29/09/2008 14:58:30

I remember my first car, cost me £300 and the first years insurance ran at £1000. I do feel for young/new drivers but I'm not sure what can be done.

Taking a Pass Plus course is one way to drop the quote (with some insurers), unfortunately that wasn't an option in my day :(
daddyf1sh

Posts: 4
Posted At: 03/10/2008 09:26:57

Like 2468 Motorway my car cost £200 and was a nova!!! it cost me £850 third party for my first year with a huge excess, its one of those things we all have to go through and paying monthly instalments was a real help....

I did pass plus at the time which bought the cost down somewhat but not massively.... If you get a low engine sensible car with a low insurance group you should fair up ok. If you get a stupidly high insurance group car with a massive engine you are asking for a big premium in my opinion...

Look at the excess too, if you can up it a little it brings down the overall premium a great deal
cheekyhface

Posts: 2
Posted At: 06/10/2008 16:42:45

hi
not only is the insurence high but has anyone asked the insurence companies why it is so much cheeper if you are a young girl driver then a boy driver?? we have dcone quotes for the same car for both tghre same ages one a boy and one a girl exactly the same nad it is comming out around 1,500 cheeper if you are a boy ???? is this sex discrimination we ask. has anyone else found this??
cheekyhface

Posts: 2
Posted At: 06/10/2008 16:43:38

if you are aq girl i meant to say sorry
crazyhead

Posts: 1
Posted At: 06/10/2008 17:00:15

yes i to have noticed this we did a quote for our son and found exactly the same car and details were entered for them my sons quote was around 1,200 more may i ask why is this happening i think this could be in the relms of sex disscrimination ?? i think its about time the insurence companies were made to answer to this. is it a case that boys are more dangerous drivers then girls? i dont think so. girls are just as much likely to have dangerous drivers as well .
Panda

Posts: 11
Posted At: 13/10/2008 11:39:56

There goes the view of an old fogey!!!! How do you get the experienece if ou can't get the insurance? Surely you are simply moving the poblem to an older age
AAChris

Posts: 13
Posted At: 13/10/2008 15:08:03

these stat's might be of interest

According to research by BRAKE, the road safety charity, one in eight drivers on Britain's roads are under the age of 25, but a quarter of drivers who die in traffic collisions are in this age group.

Association of British Insurers (ABI) figures show that male drivers aged under 21 are 10 times more likely to have a car accident than those aged 35 or over.

This is twice the rate for female drivers of the same age, who are five times more likely to have an accident than women aged 35 or over.

You can read AA advice on cutting young drivers' insurance premiums here
http://www.theaa.com/insurance/young-drivers-car-insurance.html

Panda

Posts: 11
Posted At: 15/10/2008 11:21:24

yawn yawn... youre missing the point. Statistics can tell you anything you want. If young drivers cant get insurance they will either risk driving uninsured, get someone else to get insurance for them or simply not drive until later in life. Just because someone is over 25 doesnt mean they are any better experienced. Shouldnt the premium be based on experienec rather than age. Use other conditions for the first 12 months or so such as restricted engine power, no passengers, no music, no phones inc hands free for everybody who has just passed their test regardless of age

My aunt passed her test at university 25 years ago and as she has never had a car has never driven since. As a middle aged female she is entitled to get behind the wheel of a car of her choice and even her insurance will be lower than mine and she hasn't sat in the driving seat for a quarter of a century - how does that work?
CVC_R_GT

Posts: 4
Posted At: 15/10/2008 13:10:56

I find it ridiculous that companies wont insure someone or give an outrageous quote just because they are under 25. I rang for my insurance quote at the beginning of this month and Direct Line said they wouldnt insure me because im under 25, its my 25th this month so now all of a sudden they want me to take a quote out with them. What the hell difference is 1 month going to make, so now when im 25 yrs and a day old, im supposed to be a much safer and more experienced driver then when i was 24 yrs and 364 days old?
ricdannv

Posts: 1
Posted At: 07/11/2008 23:49:10

Hi
remember
A CAR can be a LETHAL weapon if not given the respect due
Road conditions and speed also can cause fatal accidents
I lost a son because of it
www.yourbaddriving.co.uk
www.neveraway.co.uk
Chopper

Posts: 4
Posted At: 25/11/2008 00:05:52

I was lucky enough to start driving before all this discrimination towards young drivers kicked off(i think it cost me £62 TFT in early 70s)now its gonna cost thousands for my 20 yr old son,unbelievable,astronomical amount,its a $£**)& rip off if you ask me.I dont care what the statisics show,experience is a key factor but not the ultimate one,common sense and respect for the law and road safety and the safety of others as well as oneself are ultimately the key factors to driving responsibly and avoiding accidents.A lot of these qualities dont appear in todays society very often.Thought and consideration for OTHERS.We live in an extremely selfish society,where each individual is rushing about in there own selfish little world(car/cocoon)totally oblivious to everything/anything around them.There only aim seems to be to go where they want to go,at whatever speed they want to do with a total disregard for anything or anybody else......ie;SELFISHLY!
Autobairn

Posts: 2
Posted At: 26/11/2008 17:15:54

It's not fair that responsible young drivers are paying for the mistakes of those who are less responsible. There are things you can do though to prove to insurers that you're a responsible young driver.

Taking the DSA's Pass Plus course is an option if you want to bring your premium down just after passing your test. The course helps new drivers to gain experience of things like night driving and motorway driving.

It's supported by a lot of insurers, who offer substantial discounts to newly qualified drivers who've completed the course.

http://www.passplus.org.uk
ashleymer

Posts: 1
Posted At: 03/01/2009 17:06:10

Quoting Autobairn (26/11/2008 @ 17:15:54):
It's not fair that responsible young drivers are paying for the mistakes of those who are less responsible. There are things you can do though to prove to insurers that you're a responsible young driver.

Taking the DSA's Pass Plus course is an option if you want to bring your premium down just after passing your test. The course helps new drivers to gain experience of things like night driving and motorway driving.

It's supported by a lot of insurers, who offer substantial discounts to newly qualified drivers who've completed the course.

http://www.passplus.org.uk
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