FUEL

DIESEL PRICES

Original Post
Posted At
07/02/2009

BIGAL
BIGAL
it make me laugh with the fuel prices, ive just filled up today at my local sainsburys and the price of diesel as gone up from 92.9p per litre back to 99.9 in the last two weeks. ive checked at tesco and there prices are the same you would have thought that that the prices where supposed to be dropping. diesel is supposed to be cheaper but they are hit the diesel drivers including the haulage firms, ive notice that unleaded as not gone up in price. i thinks that the goverment is here to help people, there here to rip people off as usual.
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MKFuel

Posts: 2
Posted At: 05/05/2009 20:57:51

It is unlikely anyone who purchases road fuel is going to be keen to see prices rise but that is the inevitable fact of life we are all going to have to face.

For example here is the historical data on unleaded 95.

Unleaded 95 petrol
UK major brand average pump prices source UKPIA/whatprice.co.uk

2000 - 2009 (pence per litre)

2000 80.20
2001 75.50
2002 73.20
2003 76.30
2004 80.90
2005 87.30
2006 92.11
2007 95.00
2008 107.37
2009 95.60 (current average from whatprice.co.uk)

Of course we are now in a situation where inflation is static and possibly negative, interest rates are low, the economy is clearly in recession, world demand is low and oil price is low).

What intrigues me is that we have become so dependent on fuel that we are now caught in a catch 22. Move to diesel and the gov can increase duty on it, convert to lpg and likewise the gov can move in, claiming naturally that the market forces of supply and demand are at work. Even considering producing your own biofuels have added costs that make it difficult for the average motorist to take advantage of the available technology to really reduce their fuel bills.

Forecasters are predicting that we will see continued increases in our fuel prices and probably at an alarming rate of increase, especially once the world economy starts to grow again.

Here is my proposal. Start a UK fuel cooperative, owned and controlled by its members. Use the collective buying power of the membership to not just buy fuel at more competitive prices but also to buy and supply fuel efficient vehicles, fuel conversion kits and other technologies to reduce the annual costs of motoring.

The back office systems exist to now make this an affordable option by tapping into the same infrastructure that the for profit suppliers use. Utilising the buying power of thousands works for other utilities so why not for road fuels and associated equipment?

Any interest, feedback or other experience most welcome?




MV67

Posts: 2
Subject: Re: FUEL
Posted At: 02/09/2009 03:58:46

Just a question for the Dutch person regarding the Diesel price and Tax on Diesel cars. I think you forgot to mention that compared to the petrol price in Holland it is very cheap to drive a diesel car and even in Holland they have tax relief for low emission diesel cars. So I think that the cost of running a car totally depends on the kind of car someone drives
MV67

Posts: 2
Posted At: 02/09/2009 04:24:14

I truly believe that is an excellent idea with a few question marks that in my opinion have to be answered. Who are going to run this Cooperative? You can't expect it to be run by all it's members as it will loose its structure and credibility. Is it going to be a GLOBAL membership set up? What are the set up and running costs and how are these going to be covered? Will purchases be made through monthly or yearly membership fees? What is the return on financial input if any?
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