Cowboy Clampers
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Posted At 16/09/2008 2468motorway |
One of these cowboys clamped my sister last week. She is a health visiter working in Acton, W London. She parked next to a road on what looked like the public highway. There was no sign in the bays but further down the road was a sign saying private parking. It appeared this sign meant the block of flats behind. The cowboys turned up and clamped and pretended that they had called out a tow truck so they could up the "fine" to £170. This is legalised mugging. She said she would not have parked there if there was a sign. But becasuse this is on private land there is no right of appeal. These cowboys need to be outlawed.
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barkaye
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Subject: Re: Cowboy Clampers
Posted At: 07/03/2009 17:04:31
I'm glad I live somewhere that cowboy clampers don't exist - you folk south of the border are getting treated very unfairly
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laurence
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Subject: Re: Cowboy Clampers
Posted At: 24/03/2009 11:12:00
These rogues are supposed to be regulated by the SIA [government run paid for by the taxpayer] What a joke!!
Still these thieves can go about their day intimadating and threatening people with extortion. The problem is quite simply very poor signage giving no warning and obscene penalties which are always 6 to 10 times more than a council parking penalty! There is an easy answer to this problem - 1 A standard sign of size and design to be used by all private clampers. 2 The number of signs displayed should reflect size of area being covered. 3 A uniform penalty scale to be set by the SIA, eg max £50. Towing away banned. 4 A full criminal check on all operaters with very heavy fines for those operating without a licence. I live in a town center and one operator covers most of the private areas -£125 if clamped +5% for card payment and £250 if towed!! Daylight Robbery. |
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motorfan
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Subject: Re: Cowboy Clampers
Posted At: 24/03/2009 15:02:54
Both my wife and I attended a funeral in Worcester last year and being total strangers to the area were unsure where to park as there was limited parking at the church. Our granddaughter offered to show us a car park behind the local Bingo Hall. When we returned to drive to the burial site we had been clamped. The clampers duely arrived and demanded £290.00 cash to release my vehicle stating the tow-away lorry had been requested. By the time we had scraped together the money we knew we had missed the burial. These thieves gloated over our misfortune and even barred our exit for a while, even though they knew of our destination.
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aa member
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Subject: Re: Cowboy Clampers
Posted At: 27/03/2009 09:56:37
to Steve the manager
thank you I have just been clamped where did you get your information. The police would not attend and trading standards are involved Clamped for attending a local store on there invatation and in there car park |
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salerio
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Subject: Re: Cowboy Clampers
Posted At: 29/03/2009 15:52:16
looking at from the other side I am happy (occasionally) to see clampers. Where I live it became impossible to park in our own car park. The car park is well signed Private Residents Only has an open gate going into the estate where all the flats are and daily we'd see the same cars come in, park and drive off in the evening, all to save themselves £10/day parking in proper town car parks or use the park-and-ride.
Ask them not to park here and you get a mouthfull of abuse. Now that every car without a permit is clamped, the overflow carpark is always totally empty, that just shows the level of abuse that we had to put up with where I had to go and park in town and pay for it because of all the ignorant motorists who stole from us. Good on 'em and boo to the ignorant ones who preferred to steel and force the issue. Oh, it was really worth seeing it the first morning. When a clamp was put on and the driver told the clamper to f-off the just smiled sweetly and towed the car away. Ten cars in the first hour who shouldn't have been there and the same Saturday morning. Now we just need a visit Friday and Saturday night for the pubbers and clubbers and we can live our lives normally. |
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Dingaan
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Subject: Re: Cowboy Clampers
Posted At: 30/03/2009 22:41:58
Yes, in the normal course of events, I think I might have agreed with you ... that unauthorised parking in a block of flats might be cause enough to want to institute a solution as draconian as wheelclamping. However, is that really the only solution? What about a barrier? What other solutions could have been considered and why were they rejected?
I have been clamped - in my own parking bay where I own a flat! The parking permit had blown from the dashboard onto the floor which I had failed to notice. I arrived home from work at 8:30 pm and, by 10:55 pm, had received a penalty notice and been clamped. The clamping company won't be reasonable; the managing agent won't assit; the chair of the association seems to be unattainable - and my car remains clamped. The ONLY other car to have been clamped since this 'new scheme' came into force (middle of February) is another resident. Not one single unauthorised user has been found to be parking 'illegally'. Does anyone else think it odd that the only income being derived from monitoring our car park is from legitimate residents! Very suspicious I would say. Anyone got any suggestions as to what course of action I should now persue? |
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cowboy clampers
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Subject: Re: Cowboy Clampers
Posted At: 03/04/2009 08:49:31
As a clamper I must pass comment, the majority of people act ignorant, stating I didnt see the signs, I ask if you were a land owner and you could not get access to park your own vehicles due to the everyday motorist who chooses to ignore the warning notices and park, be it in a private road conveniently or near a shopping centre or if you have an allocated parking bay in a residential developement, you come home from work and you cant park your car and have to pay a fee to park on the public highway, how angry would you be? I ask all persons, did you see the signs (of which are very prominent)? did you read the signs? did you park your car there? you probably would have answered yes to them all, so exactly whose fault is it that you were clamped, yes , yours, If you choose to park on private property ignoring the signs it is down to you. The AA have a deicated web page advising about parking on private land, the citezens advice have the same. Most people choose to take a chance when parking and unfortunately get caught out. All the anger and frustration in my eyes is unwarrented and through no fault of your own. IWhen parking my vehicle I always adhere to the parking rules and conditions. Some people park on private land to save a few pennies from the parking meter and get slapped with a clamp.
However I do agree that the fines should be capped and ticketing and clamping straight after is wrong. Are you aware that many many ticketing companies are now sprouting up as you dont need a SIA license and it is not regulated, rather like locksmiths! If you cant get an SIA license you then go into setting up a ticketing organisation, you dont need a licence, dont get the confrontation, gain access to DVLA records and charge a fortune. Maybe if the individual were to come out clamping vehicles for a day the attitude towards the job, the land owner may change. |
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cowboy clampers
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Subject: Re: Cowboy Clampers
Posted At: 03/04/2009 08:50:36
As a clamper I must pass comment, the majority of people act ignorant, stating I didnt see the signs, I ask if you were a land owner and you could not get access to park your own vehicles due to the everyday motorist who chooses to ignore the warning notices and park, be it in a private road conveniently or near a shopping centre or if you have an allocated parking bay in a residential developement, you come home from work and you cant park your car and have to pay a fee to park on the public highway, how angry would you be? I ask all persons, did you see the signs (of which are very prominent)? did you read the signs? did you park your car there? you probably would have answered yes to them all, so exactly whose fault is it that you were clamped, yes , yours, If you choose to park on private property ignoring the signs it is down to you. The AA have a deicated web page advising about parking on private land, the citezens advice have the same. Most people choose to take a chance when parking and unfortunately get caught out. All the anger and frustration in my eyes is unwarrented and through no fault of your own. IWhen parking my vehicle I always adhere to the parking rules and conditions. Some people park on private land to save a few pennies from the parking meter and get slapped with a clamp.
However I do agree that the fines should be capped and ticketing and clamping straight after is wrong. Are you aware that many many ticketing companies are now sprouting up as you dont need a SIA license and it is not regulated, rather like locksmiths! If you cant get an SIA license you then go into setting up a ticketing organisation, you dont need a licence, dont get the confrontation, gain access to DVLA records and charge a fortune. Maybe if the individual were to come out clamping vehicles for a day the attitude towards the job, the land owner may change. Jump to Page: 1 |
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FA
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Posted At: 03/04/2009 19:19:54
I recently had my car towed from a 'private’ car park on a public road in Leeds city centre. The company which towed my car was JP Parking Consultants. The road or car park was not marked private and the signage present was not clear, especially in the dark when the incident occurred. I could only read the sign when I returned and found my vehicle missing and started looking for any information in the vicinity of where my car was parked.
I had to pay a total of 430 pounds to get my car back. This was broken down as follows: - 240 pound towing fee - 100 pound clamp release fee - 2 x 45 pound storage fee. The 45 pound fee was for each day or part thereof. The car was towed at approx 22h00 which means it ended up being 22.5 pounds per hour of storage which is just ridiculous. Furthermore, the back of my vehicle which was 3 weeks old at the time was scratched, however JP Parking Consultants took no responsibility for it and I could not prove it by inspecting the tow truck for red paint off my car as the compound was locked and had 18ft high gates and brick walls with broken glass along the top. You could also hear numerous very hungry and angry dogs inside. I had no other choice but to pay the fine as I needed my car for work that day. I requested an invoice from the company and received a hand written invoice which did not have VAT included and did not have an invoice number. When I questioned this I was advised that the company did not need to include VAT on such a service and that an invoice number was not required. Both of which did not make any sense to me and left me questioning how legitimate a business JP Parking Consultants is! Do you know of any appeals which have succeded against a similar case? Which laws govern the operation of such companies on public roads? I cannot find any reference to this on the Leeds city council website. How do these companies set their prices? What are the rules which govern signage and its legibility? Your assistance would be greatly appreciated. I would be more than happy to start an appeal - if there any lawyers out there who have been clamped and towed and know how much it hurts then please sing out! Cheers |
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sab
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Subject: Re: Cowboy Clampers
Posted At: 04/04/2009 02:06:47
I was clamped at Resturant parking . I was charged £150 release fee. but when I seen the clamper detail on SIA web site the sia batch number he give me not on his name mean the name he wrote on the receipt different on the sia web site against sia batch number what i have to do next please help me in this sort of case.
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